How Can You Teach Post-Trib?

Question:

I'm trying to figure out how you can teach post tribulation when the word disagrees with you!

Col 3:4 "When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in GLORY!" Paul say's here we return with Christ in glory!

Matthew 24:30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great GLORY" (This is when we come back with Christ!)

Matthew 24:31 "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Now my question is to you is how can we be gathered if we return with Christ in Col 3:4 and Matthew 24:30 ?????? We can't be gathered if we have already returned with Christ!!!!

Please study 1 Thess 1:10 and remember we were saved from hell when Christ died on the cross so this means that we are delivered from the tribulation!

1 Thess 5:9 same thing we are spared from all wrath!!!!
1 Thess 5:3 notice paul say's THEY will not escape but we are indeed spared!
Zech 14:5 we return with Christ while the elect Jews are still fleeing!
Rev 19:11 here we are coming back with christ!

Bottom line is get ready Jesus is coming!!!!! Please read 1 Cor. 15:1-4

Response:

The Bible says we "appear" not "return." We are caught up to welcome Christ back when he returns (see "To Meet, apantesis," Ch. 5 Key Greek Words and Terms). The ones who return with Christ are identified as the souls of the dead saints (1 Thess. 4:14), who are brought back to earth to be reunited with thier bodies and then we all shall "appear with him in glory." I am Post-Trib because Jesus is Post-Trib (Matt. 24:29-31). The Bible only says that Christ will return "after the tribulation" and nowhere does it say "before."

I agree that we are spared the wrath of God because of the death of Christ. But if that means that we cannot be on the earth during the Tribulation then what about those who are saved during the Tribulation?

These so-called "tribulational saints" are said to: "have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" (Rev. 7:14); overcome by "the blood of the Lamb" (12:11); "hold the testimony of Jesus" (12:17); "keep their faith in Jesus" (14:12); "die in the Lord" (14:13); be "witnesses of Jesus" (17:6); be "beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus" (20:4); and possibly be our "fellow servants and brethren" (6:11) if you include the church with "those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained" (6:9). These people are Christians in every sense of the word. Concerning the body of Christ, Paul says "that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it" (1 Cor. 12:26-27 ). One of the most troubling teachings of pre-tribulationism to me is a divided body of Christians with some on earth suffering while the rest of us just watch from a safe distance.